wow that is frightening.

over here in Australia, our crime rates are still quite reasonable. Most of our news headlines are filled with overseas disasters and murders.

On many nights the worst crime story will be a high speed car chase or assult etc.

that is an interesting question though "what is wrong with South Africans?" ... i can see cause to ask this...


in teh news story u posted, the man seemed to have killed the girl out of frustration... not out of poverty etc...

what is wrong with anybody that kills for such reasons? any reason...
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How do you explain murder that is incited by a witch doctor?

"The witch doctor told me to kill that granny, because she was the one who put a spell on my cow, and caused it to be hit by the lightning that killed it"
So the guy ends up throwing a couple tyres around her neck, adds a bit of petrol, and sets her alight.

If your not from South Africa, you probably think im kidding... well think again...

Shaka Zulu, used to impale people on massive poles, right through there asses, so that they could be seen on display as examples.

How much of these unexplainable murders are related to tribal beliefs?

ps. Australia, has had some of the biggest mass killers cases in the world.
But what can be found on the front pages of newspapers in Oz, is there inhumane handling of refugees. Where kids not even in there teens, have been sitting in worse then prison enviroments for longer then a year, with out having there cases reviewed and with out being sent home to there countries. These kids are cutting themselves, starving themselves, and some even trying to kill themselves, because of the way they are being treated, and they arnt even old enough to understand whats going on..

Man arrested for disembowelling woman
Posted Mon, 29 Jul 2002

A Zwelitsha man accused of disembowelling a woman by pulling her intestines through her rectum, which resulted in her death, was arrested on Saturday in King William's Town, police said on Sunday.

Nomsa Rumbu (41) of Zone 8, who had ninety percent of her intestines removed through her rectum died at the Frere Hospital last week on Sunday.

Superintendent Eddie Watson said Monde Nxazonke (23) who was wanted in connection with the incident, was arrested at Kubusie in the Stutterheim area after a tip-off.

Nxazonke would appear in the Zwelitsha Magistrates Court on Monday.

He was recently acquitted on a charge of rape in the same court due to a lack of evidence and was subsequently convicted for assault with the intent to do grievous bodily harm and fined R1000.

It is alleged that Rumbu and her 18-year-old mentally disabled son were making their way home from a circumcision ceremony last week Saturday.

They were accosted by a man who went to their home with them and then allegedly disembowelled Rumbu by forcing his hand up her rectum and pulling her intestines out.

Her son, who was forced to witness the incident, was threatened with death and could not come to his mothers assistance.

Neighbours were later alerted and Rumbu was admitted to hospital.

Doctors attempted to operate but her injuries were so severe that there was nothing they could do.

District surgeon Dr Basil Wingreen who performed a post-mortem on Rumbu described it as "the most bizarre post-mortem I have conducted in my 45-years as a medical practitioner and district surgeon".

The post-mortem stated the cause of death as evisceration (disembowelment of the intestines).

Police are also investigating the possibility that Rumbu may have been raped prior to been disembowelled.


Sapa

Ehhhhemmm,.... shall I ask the question again?

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Originally posted by Jaybang

But what can be found on the front pages of newspapers in Oz, is there inhumane handling of refugees. Where kids not even in there teens, have been sitting in worse then prison enviroments for longer then a year, with out having there cases reviewed and with out being sent home to there countries. These kids are cutting themselves, starving themselves, and some even trying to kill themselves, because of the way they are being treated, and they arnt even old enough to understand whats going on..

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"wow that is frightening.

over here in Australia, our crime rates are still quite reasonable. Most of our news headlines are filled with overseas disasters and murders.

On many nights the worst crime story will be a high speed car chase or assult etc. " KGB_GODDESS

(how do you do the quote thingy?)

I wasnt having a go at you, i was just pointing out the fact that every country has ****... werent 3 brothers killed with swords or knives or something like that in south yarra recently? Butchered outside a night club?

Australia has there own problems.. every country has got problems. No one is high and mighty and pure.

hehe, quote thingies >>


use the following tags, but replace the word "rote" with "quote"

[rote] insert text [/rote]


or you could press the "quote" button when u to to reply to a persons post. the button should be at the bottom of the persons post.



and yes, you are right, every country has their problems! ofcourse some more than others. What i was trying to say i guess, murders and so on are pretty isolated incidents here... it happens yes, but not nearly as much as in other nations. I mean school shootings and stuff? hasnt' hit australia YET... but i fear that it will.
We had a massacre here in 1996 tho, in Tasmania.. i think about THIRTY SIX people were killed! terrible. but again... pretty isolated incident.


i think as a whole, we are all heading towards the same direction, and that is worse crime as time goes on.
Animals kill for food - people kill for fun...
hmmm.


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One can draw many conclusions from such an incident. The man could not cope with the responsibilities of fatherhood...taking it out on the weakest link maybe. Or just plain sicky behavior.

But to think an entire culture or its belief systems are a reflection of some individual's lack of humanity is ethnocentrism. I could say to Jaybang that I think Brits and or Afrikaneers are a bunch of racist, exploiters rapists who believe in denying the majority of the population of a land's one man/one vote sense of inclusiveness and democracy...with the flimsy excuse of because they are naturally savage, a bunch of low life losers (the European derived South Africans) who arrogantly believe in their own superiority...lol. But I know that is completely false. There are good and wonderful people in all groups. And if all inhabit the same land long enough there is going to be coming together and hopefully mutual understanding....if they want to respect each other. If they do not then bloodletting will continue....simple as that. Learn to appreciate the gift of realizing that all people have good and bad....in them and every ethnic group must work hard to become better human beings in all cultures. Judgement calls on who has superior or inferior cultures leads to death and destruction as is so amply demonstrated in SA history of late.


I happen to like Mr. Jaybang's opinions in general.

Hmmmm, you got me to re read my post : )

Ethnocentrism: characterized by or based on the attitude that one's own group is superior

Is that how I came across?

It was meant to be more a question then a statement. The question being:
“How much of these unexplainable murders are related to tribal beliefs?”

I wasn’t implying that all Africans descended from tribal days are barbaric. Allthough I can see how that may have come across.

I didn’t really give that post much thought, but my question remains the same, as I sometimes just cant understand the brutality or logic in some of the killings. But with out to much looking around, yes, you will find instances of similar things around the world throughout history.

Thanks for the comments, im allways open to them good or bad.
Keep em comming : )
JB