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brett_chapman
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Argh.
Ok. That must be the *millionth* time I've forgotten 'het'. It drives Afrikaner friends of mine mad.. I don't know how many times I've heard. 'That's very good, but you must have 'het'...' ;-)
Thanx Allan.
Anyway.
Statistics are the coolest things! Here in NZ, I found National Level lingual info very hard to find.. I had to go by region in the end, but I'd imagine it's a bigger issue in SA.
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Brett C
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13th May 2001 04:58
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toinet
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Ik ben een geboren Zuid-Afrikaner en woon nu in Nederland. In Zuid-Afrika was Afrikaans mijn taal en ik zou NOOIT willen dat het verdwijnt. Ja, Afrikaans en Nederlands zijn verwante talen, maar NOOIT zou de Afrikaanssprekende Zuid-Afrikaners Nederland moeten gaan praten en zo hun eigen identiteit inleveren. Zelfs al woon ik nou in Nederland, en zelfs al spreek ik Nederlands, zal ik altijd van Zuid-Afrika blijven houden en kan niemand me mijn afkomst afnemen. Ook niet het mooie grappige taaltje waarmee ik ben opgegroeid. Laat Nederlands en Afrikaans maar lekker twee talen blijven en laat de Zuid-Afrikaners de recht hebben om hun eigen identiteit te behouden. We hebben hard genoeg gevochten om Afrikaans een erkend taal te maken, waarom zouden we de strijd van onze voorvaders nou ongedaan maken!
LANG LEWE AFRIKAANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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25th May 2001 15:54
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brett_chapman
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Could someone plz translate? My Afrikaans is bad enough. My Dutch is non existant :-)
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Brett C
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28th May 2001 08:52
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toinet
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Sorry Brett!!
Sorry Brett, I should have translated it the first time round, but here it is:
I am a born South African and now live in the Netherlands. In South Africa Afrikaans was the language I spoke and I would NEVER want it to disappear. Afrikaans and Dutch indeed are languages that look a lot alike, but never should and will the Afrikaans speaking South African speak Dutch and by doing that loose there own identity. Even though I now live in the Netherlands, and I speak Dutch, I will always love South Africa and no one can ever take that away from me. They must also leave my language (Afrikaans) alone. Let Dutch and Afrikaans stay two different languages and leave the Afrikaans-speaking South Africans to have the right to keep their own identity. Our ancestors fought hard enough to have Afrikaans accepted as an official language, so why will we undo that now.
LONG LIVE AFRIKAANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1st June 2001 18:16
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brett_chapman
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Dutch/Afrikaans
Now that I know what you said.. ;-)
I agree totally :-)
Personally, I was born into an English speaking South African family, but I have some Afrikaans heritage as well, which I am very proud of. I'd also hate to see it submerged - what difference does it make if it's English or Dutch that does the submerging?
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Brett C
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3rd June 2001 06:45
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Emile-Martijn
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Intercultureel onderwijs (Intercultural education)
NL: Ik ben zelf eigenlijk teleurgesteld dat het Nederlands (middelbaar) onderwijs weinig tot geen aandacht besteed aan dialecten en/of verwante talen.
Ik zou het prachtig hebben gevonden als tenminste 10% van de lessen aandacht zouden besteden aan het Vlaams, Afrikaans, Fries en Limburgs als zelfstandige taal. Maar ook aan de specifieke karakteristieken van bv. Zeeuwse, Gelderse of Haagse accenten.
UK: Personally I'm disappointed that the Dutch (secondary) educational system pays hardly, if any, attention to dialects or cognate languages.
I think it would have been great if at least 10% of the lessons would pay attention to Flamish, Afrikaans, Friesian and Limburg as seperate languages. But also to the specific charachteristic of e.g. Zeeland(-Flanders), Gelderland or Hague accents.
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3rd June 2001 15:25
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brett_chapman
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I've heard about how the Dutch government was trying to 'Standardise' all of your dialects. I understand the original set laid a 'line' from the Northern part of the Netherlands to southern dialects which bore a resemblance to Plattdeutsch? Anyway. Isn't there a movement going on to preserve Frisian? I was under the impression that they had a tertiary institute set up recently.
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Brett C
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4th June 2001 01:32
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